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RT @AustinFarle: Botswana did ban trophy hunting. Communities suffered, so they recently reinstated it. Clearly photographic tourism didn't…
RT @AustinFarle: Botswana did ban trophy hunting. Communities suffered, so they recently reinstated it. Clearly photographic tourism didn't…
RT @AustinFarle: Botswana did ban trophy hunting. Communities suffered, so they recently reinstated it. Clearly photographic tourism didn't…
RT @AustinFarle: Botswana did ban trophy hunting. Communities suffered, so they recently reinstated it. Clearly photographic tourism didn't…
RT @AustinFarle: Botswana did ban trophy hunting. Communities suffered, so they recently reinstated it. Clearly photographic tourism didn't…
Botswana did ban trophy hunting. Communities suffered, so they recently reinstated it. Clearly photographic tourism didn't solve the issue. https://t.co/7gxoB9Xco1
@WizWackaTroll @OrbPlanet I would also like to point out that Botswana did ban trophy hunting, it backfired, communities suffered, so they reinstated it. You literally aren't educated enough to speak on this topic. https://t.co/7gxoB9Xco1
@dendresner @DanChallender @BBCWorld Hmm, worth reminding ourselves how well Khama's ban went.....https://t.co/TsDqojZjct
@harvross And how well did that ban go for Botswana? Not very well from what I can see in the peer reviewed literature.... https://t.co/AASZu8KXxb
@EbenVenterWritr @julianrademeyer What evidence are you basing that on? Certainly not the evidence I've seen.....https://t.co/TsDqojZjct
@EnriqueAburto3 @pets_in_danger @AdamHartScience @AustinFarle @John58784 @BeadleDarren @CWitvrouwen @DanChallender @LionLandscapes Where are you getting your data on the increased revenue without TH? The papers I've seen suggest the opposite, eg below http
@EnriqueAburto3 @John58784 @FattebertJ @XposeTrophyHunt @WildCRU_Ox It's not removing it per se, it's removing it without any better options ready. And re Botswana, the evidence shows the ban had harms. Time limited moratoria and age based limits better ht
@Bufftontuffton3 @darraghhare Like most scientists, I use existing evidence to inform likely future scenarios. During the Botswana TH ban, for example, funding reduced & conflict & poaching increased, harming wildlife. I wouldn't support that outco
RT @AmyDickman4: @AnnieLeymarie @AdamHartScience @DanChallender @Paul78849644 @natalieben @dilysroe @daughterofsahel Plus this peer reviewe…
RT @AmyDickman4: @AnnieLeymarie @AdamHartScience @DanChallender @Paul78849644 @natalieben @dilysroe @daughterofsahel Plus this peer reviewe…
@AnnieLeymarie @AdamHartScience @DanChallender @Paul78849644 @natalieben @dilysroe @daughterofsahel Plus this peer reviewed info on damaging local impacts of trophy hunting bans.... https://t.co/TsDqojZjct
@brentstapelkamp Those edge effects are important & highlight some of the risks of TH. But it's also important to bear in mind the wider context - what happens to HWC if TH is removed? Evidence from Bots not good....yet again, it's complex & often
@Paul45996796489 @Acruelpastime @SianSullivanUK Which moral concerns? Can you please just explain exactly how a ban is moral if it harms people and wildlife, as was seen in Botswana, from peer reviewed evidence, for example? Please answer that.....https://
@bernabephoto Hi Richard, a lot of research has gone into looking at the conservation value of TH. I implore you to read the published literature. A blanket will negatively impact conservational efforts and reduce animal welfare. Ideologically I hate TH to
@georgecmcgavin @DorsetWildlife Which evidence? It's clear that TH can cause harm but also can & does have important conservation benefits, especially habitat conservation, & habitat loss is the main threat to biodiversity. There's no simple 'bet
@richard_kaputt Botswana saw the start of a similar effect during their ban during the time of Ian Khama's presidency. Fortunately the change was realised & the ban was reversed by the following government. https://t.co/8KXTiQpUGv 3/…
RT @WilliamJohnOwen: @MarkHamill @KSAfricaHack Botswana saw the start of a similar effect during their ban. Fortunately the change was real…
@MarkHamill @KSAfricaHack Botswana saw the start of a similar effect during their ban. Fortunately the change was realised & the ban was reversed. https://t.co/8KXTiQpUGv 5/…
@Acruelpastime @RichardOnSafari @WilliamJohnOwen When bans have been tried before both conflict and poaching increased (https://t.co/DcohbJwC6r). What data do you have that suggests a ban will result in better outcomes for wildlife? The top 3 countries in
@StillRosieWood @eesakhan @dilysroe @UKHouseofLords Hunting helps support habitat conservation in Botswana (and elsewhere). Which 'other ways'? Photo tourism is insufficient. The effects of the short term ban included damaging ones for people & wildlif
@StillRosieWood @georgecmcgavin @DorsetWildlife @UKHouseofLords Which years are you talking about? Trophy hunting has been used there for decades, with growing numbers of species such as elephants - then there was a brief, 4 year ban (with several harmful
@CWitvrouwen While trophy bans also increase conflict, let's not forget....https://t.co/TsDqojZjct
@Future_Pasts @ShoeBil11417412 @domdyer70 @HSIUKorg And yet again, plenty of evidence that banning trophy hunting without better options ready increases conflict & wildlife killings of the type I show in the blog. One example from Botswana here, for ex
@knowmiun @KSAfricaHack @Divyesh63 @dr_okra @AmyDickman4 @RachelNuwer @bioGraphic @sejorg @SMC_London You keep copying and pasting the same stuff yet time and time again, when you apply context, it just doesn't make a valid argument. https://t.co/7gxoB9X
@knowmiun @KSAfricaHack @Divyesh63 @dr_okra @AmyDickman4 @RachelNuwer @bioGraphic @sejorg @SMC_London My goodness, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. It was evidence that got the government of Botswana to overturn the ban. https://t.
@westonroberts4 @CWitvrouwen @AbySene9 @SianSullivanUK @m_ogada @VMatiru @mizuecocare @emsfoundationsa @BAT_S_A @MrRyanJDalton @tomopre And again, the lack of uptake of photo tourism when TH was banned in Botswana...... https://t.co/TsDqojZjct
@Chez_Em @ChrisGPackham Did you actually read the paper on the impacts of the Botswana ban? Here it is again.....how was this positive exactly? https://t.co/TsDqojZjct
@RichardOnSafari Interesting read spotted elsewhere, but also, do people not realise the animals will most likely be culled anyway, just that no revenue is raised, no employment for rangers, no education and no food from TH: https://t.co/Zn90udwhL0
@HsaChair @ChrisGPackham Not only do I mention Botswana, I co-authored a paper highlighting their conservation success. But many of those PAs use TH, and the ban was far from a success for people or wildlife - see paper on it here https://t.co/TsDqojZjct
@TheOrnithologi2 @Barbara82415150 @KaraJarina @ECOWARRIORSS @GeraldKutney @spiralweaver @MathiusQuinn @sattack89 @BobInPascoFl @EarthKeeper22 @DawnRoseTurner @NeilSalter4 Effects of the safari hunting tourism ban on rural livelihoods and wildlife conservat
@AnnieLeymarie @SteveCJjones You don't see a link to a paper here? I thought it was obvious the abstract was from that paper. Anyway, this is too dumb so I'm out. https://t.co/NXWWmDi0J4
@AnnieLeymarie @SteveCJjones The person who implemented the ban might not be the most objective judge of its success. Just a thought. https://t.co/t5yGHbeAyt
@seasylvia2005 @DailyMailUK But they didn't benefit......https://t.co/TsDqojZjct
@KarenPBuckMP @CBTHunting Botswana saw the start of a similar effect during their ban. Fortunately the change was realised & the ban was reversed. https://t.co/8KXTiQpUGv 4/…
@CWitvrouwen @teacherSam08 @AfricanWCC @ConservationNa1 @CBTHunting Working for who? Not the local people you claim to care about ....https://t.co/TsDqojZR21
@AlexDaviesJones @ElinBrown6 @ChrisGPackham @CBTHunting Botswana saw the start of a similar effect during their ban. Fortunately the change was realised & the ban was reversed. https://t.co/8KXTiQpUGv 4/…
@CWitvrouwen @ulrik_gh @SusannaN2 @melodyLeeG1 @MarkABrackney @TheCriticMag @LeadersSouthern Maybe try a peer reviewed paper about the impacts of a ban - clear negative impacts for people & wildlife. And again, people rely on both jobs, so why take one
@DaveandDaf @ProtectWldlife @PeterEgan6 @RobRobbEdwards @angie_karan @dan710ths @_AnimalAdvocate @Animal_Watch @tarastrong @Acruelpastime Botswana saw the start of a similar effect during their ban. Fortunately the change was realised & the ban was rev
@JohnEMarriott @yukondoug @HenrySmithUK @MartinaTyrrell This paper looked at what happened with the Botswana TH ban, in terms of local livelihoods etc....https://t.co/AASZu8KXxb
@I_am_Jill_ @RosemaryStewar1 @CBTHunting This lead to an increase in wildlife deaths as rural communities no longer had a reason to tolerate wildlife eating their crops & livestock. You can read the details here. https://t.co/8KXTiQpUGv
@rupertevelyn @itvnews @CBTHunting @JaneGoodallInst @rupertevelyn you do realise that where hunting has been banned in Kenya it's been a disaster for wildlife diversity. https://t.co/TRYbzTMWZL The Botswanan ban had started to produce similar effects bef
@gornalalbion @CBTHunting @PeterEgan6 @HenrySmithUK @ConservativeAWF @DefraGovUK @SirRogerGale @UnitingAfricans @HsaChair @Conservatives @EdGoncalvesCBTH That research shows there clearly isn't room for both wildlife & agriculture. Absolutely shooting
@StillRosieWood I'm not sure the data actually backs that up, from what I've read (eg see study below). I imagine the pluses and minuses vary between sites. What is unregulated TH - isn't that just poaching? https://t.co/TsDqojHHNT
RT @AmyDickman4: @BornFreeFDN @NukkleusInc Sigh.....who are you, a wealthy Western charity, to decide if the revenue and employment is 'sig…
RT @AmyDickman4: @BornFreeFDN @NukkleusInc Sigh.....who are you, a wealthy Western charity, to decide if the revenue and employment is 'sig…
@BornFreeFDN @NukkleusInc Sigh.....who are you, a wealthy Western charity, to decide if the revenue and employment is 'significant'? That comes across as extremely patronising & dismissive. You are campaigning for bans with no better options ready: tha
@CWitvrouwen And this one showing the negative impact of bans on livelihoods....https://t.co/TsDqojZjct
@CWitvrouwen @ratada23 @WilliamJohnOwen @AdamHartScience @joe_jones19 @KSAfricaHack @VMatiru @dice @IUCNSULi @ColleenBegg1 I've seen little clear evidence on impacts of TH on HWC in those blocks, would like to see more data. But at a wider scale, if bans l
@CWitvrouwen @WilliamJohnOwen @AdamHartScience @ratada23 @joe_jones19 @KSAfricaHack @VMatiru @dice @IUCNSULi @ColleenBegg1 That's an opinion piece, not science. There are undoubtedly issues with TH & it can indeed put pressure on big cat populations, s
@VMatiru @IUCNRedList In Botswana photo tourism failed to move into hunting areas once they banned TH which resulted in an increase in HWC & poaching. https://t.co/yp3Hr7XMNg
@CWitvrouwen @knowmiun @CBTHunting @fishvetmj Why didn't these 'better jobs' occur in Botswana? Why are they not sweeping in across vacant hunting blocks in Tanzania? Why are we seeing negative outcomes of bans? You are getting what you want - and we are s
@knowmiun @CBTHunting @CWitvrouwen @fishvetmj And do you not see how incredibly insulting it is that you - or others - should dismiss those local jobs and revenue, & campaign to remove them with zero viable alternative ready? As well as conservation ri
@knowmiun @CBTHunting @CWitvrouwen @fishvetmj I've asked you before, but you didn't reply - what degree of evidence of the risks of bans would make you change your mind? Because there is quite a bit out there, & its growing - so to push on regardless w
@Lanyulavillage @ConversationUK It is so strange that you see externally imposed bans as empowerment: I think that's disempowement. And trophy hunting can indeed benefit local communities, far more than bans, eg below. Needs more local benefit but not blac
@VMatiru @_alanbradbury @AdamHartScience @simon_r_tucker @m_ogada @ColleenBegg1 @LauraDBertola @ConservationNa1 @CWitvrouwen @morss_alex @GeorgeMonbiot Fascinating! What about science led by Black people, eg below? And if you don't believe in science, then
@ratada23 @AdamHartScience @dilysroe Actually there is plenty of African led science on this, eg below and I can't see anyone being 'nudged' into choosing trophy hunting because of a lack of alternatives, it is more highlighting risks of bans https://t.co/
@HenrySmithUK Ian Khama is no longer the president of Botswana. The ban he introduced was reversed because photo tourism failed to move into more rural areas. As a result negative attitudes towards wildlife & poaching increased in rural communities. ht
@knowmiun @MarkABrackney @rwritextinction @paulgoodenough How exactly does Botswana debunk the conservation concerns around imposing bans without better options ready? If anything, it clearly supports those evidence-based narratives https://t.co/orDj6jseOR
@HazelTreacy1 @KSAfricaHack @AdamHartScience @WalksWithRhinos @domdyer70 @carrielbjohnson @DailyMailUK @ZacGoldsmith @charliemoores Consequences of banning trophy hunting in Botswana. https://t.co/0krBbeeQx8
@Lady_Bexy @domdyer70 @BornFreeFDN @ZacGoldsmith @LeagueACS @OtlPodcasts Er, people absolutely do eat the elephant meat, and it is valued locally, I've seen that with my own eyes. People also value the revenue that comes from these hunts.....worth reading
@Unpop_Science TH & photo-tourism both offer opportunities, often in different ways, to different people, in different places (see Naidoo paper). Rather than undermining one, we need more options. This is a peer reviewed overview of the impacts of the
@Unpop_Science Hmmm, again, peer reviewed studies seem not to show the Botswana ban in such a positive light. If it was so great, why did they reverse it? https://t.co/J5HwM7aTXn
@knowmiun @AdamHartScience @DingliLaurent It isn't all about race, you know .....Tico has decades of first hand conservation experience in Botswana. Would love to see how that compares to you...though you could trust Mbaiwa below? Hmm, but you conveniently
RT @DrHWeb: @AmyDickman4 @AdamHartScience @DingliLaurent To better understand the situation on the ground, read this statement from one of…
RT @DrHWeb: @AmyDickman4 @AdamHartScience @DingliLaurent To better understand the situation on the ground, read this statement from one of…
RT @DrHWeb: @AmyDickman4 @AdamHartScience @DingliLaurent To better understand the situation on the ground, read this statement from one of…
@AmyDickman4 @AdamHartScience @DingliLaurent To better understand the situation on the ground, read this statement from one of the most respected conservation NGOs in the region: https://t.co/NWLdOLdTWe See further evidence of the effects of the ban here:
@knowmiun @pgreenfielduk Interesting how you never link to the rejoinder to that article, @knowmiun 😃How much evidence do you want that bans risk negative conservation outcomes? Kenya, Botswana, habitat loss in Tz, lots of examples if you put aside your bi
@DingliLaurent Hmm, any evidence for that claim? And do you think the ban was a success for conservation & local people? Because the peer reviewed papers I have seen seem to suggest the opposite, eg https://t.co/yHx0XxpvBq
@katzyna @mr_calvero @46_billy @WalksWithRhinos @EAmichai @CharlesJonga Yes indeed, we need to think beyond just economic benefits to social issues, for both photo-tourism and TH. The loss of those wider social benefits were interestingly the ones often ci
RT @AmyDickman4: @ArjDheer @DrHWeb @AdamHartScience @AmyDickman For papers, here are a couple - for opinions, worth starting with the @Lead…
@ArjDheer @DrHWeb @AdamHartScience @AmyDickman For papers, here are a couple - for opinions, worth starting with the @LeadersSouthern for more contacts https://t.co/J5HwM7aTXn
@tina_ppd @9brandon @Nikolaj_Bi @henrymance Conclusions were drawn about the impacts of the hunting ban in Botswana, and it did not seem good from the perspectives of many of the local people most affected, whose voices should count the most https://t.co/y
@CBTHunting Hmm, this is the best evidence of the impact of the ban in Botswana....https://t.co/J5HwM7aTXn
@DaniRabaiotti @CommonsEFRA @fishvetmj Oh, he mentions the Botswana ban - no mention of the study of the TH ban.....https://t.co/J5HwM7aTXn
@FidelNyams @pinkyrissa1 @Nenagh9 @SharonHoole @XposeTrophyHunt @TrophyXpose @CBTHunting @CitysFElephants @Sonntag1M @gteasts Terribly sad, but can you explain how banning TH would improve this situation? In Botswana it only reduced locamll benefits to wil
@Karmageddon67 @AdamHartScience @westwills3_bill @Victori45792596 @CWitvrouwen @Nenagh9 Here is a peer reviewed paper showing exactly the kind of negative consequences we warned of, during just a temporary ban in Botswana. And over time this would doubtles
@timerich @TeuchterNature @APPGTrophyHunt No, sadly it isn't that simple. Photo tourism simply wouldn't be viable in most hunting areas (it doesn't even cover the costs of most Parks), so removing TH risks major land conversion, poaching etc. Impacts seen
@heaneytomtom @NowaDetroit @rickygervais Yes and you are right - there is a need for conflict mitigation, though that's largely a different issue from TH - and stopping hunting without better options does risk increasing poaching. Hope that helps! https://
@teacherSam08 @thonoir @CBTHunting Yes, if no better options are ready. TH may be less important than photo tourism at a national scale, but is still important, esp locally for vast hunting areas. See the study below for impacts of Botswana's TH ban - less
@slwstr Ludzie, którzy czerpią satysfakcję z takich atrakcji są dla mnie co najmniej podejrzani, ale istnieje kilka badań sugerujących, że taki trophy hunting potrafi mieć pozytywny wpływ nie tylko na społeczności ale też paradoks. na gatunki chronione; źr
@oldsmith @ClareWa00100208 @GeorgeMonbiot @morss_alex And it was tried to some extent in Botswaba during their TH ban, not with brilliant success in many places https://t.co/TsDqojZjct